Armada NISMO - Tuning & Aftermarket Potential

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Alright everyone, the "First Drive" reviews have me officially hyped, so I wanted to start a dedicated thread for what I'm really interested in: the tuning and aftermarket potential for the new Armada NISMO.

We all know the 460 horsepower is a great start, but the engine is a 3.5L twin-turbo V6, code-named the VR35DDTT. That "VR" designation isn't an accident—this engine is in the same family as the legendary VR38DETT from the GT-R. Obviously, it's not the same hand-built monster, but the potential has to be there.

So, what do we think is possible? I'm talking about a simple ECU flash from a reputable tuner like EcuTek or UpRev. Could we see 500+ horsepower at the wheels with just a tune on 93 octane? What's the weak point going to be? Can the 9-speed transmission handle that extra torque, or will the clutches start slipping?

And what about hardware? I'm already dreaming of less-restrictive downpipes, a full cat-back exhaust to let that V6 sing, and maybe even bigger intercoolers.

Am I crazy, or is this new Armada NISMO secretly a 7-seat GT-R in disguise just waiting to be unlocked? What are your thoughts?
 
Here we go. The truck isn't even on dealer lots yet and we're already talking about tearing it apart.

You want to take your brand-new, $75,000+ family SUV and immediately void the 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain warranty with a tune? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. You'll be the first person in here complaining when the dealer flags your ECU, denies your claim for a transmission failure, and you're stuck with a $10,000 repair bill on a 6-month-old truck.

There's more to a vehicle than a dyno number. These things are complex. You have no idea how that tune will affect the long-term reliability of the engine internals or the transmission. Leave it to the engineers who designed it. If you want a 500-horsepower race car, buy one. Don't try to turn a 3-ton SUV into something it's not.
 
Hey everyone, first post here. I tune modern Nissan and Infiniti platforms, especially the VR30 in the Q50/Q60 and the new Z. I've been following the VR35DDTT development closely.

A few things to keep in mind:
  1. Accessing the ECU: This is a brand-new engine control unit. It's not as simple as plugging in and flashing a map. It will take time for tuners to get access to the ECU and safely decode it. We're excited, but realistically, reliable tuning options are probably 6-12 months away. Don't trust anyone who claims they can tune it tomorrow.
  2. Fuel System is the First Limit: On the related VR30 engine, the stock fuel pumps are usually the first bottleneck. You can't just crank up the boost without delivering more fuel. We expect the same here. A simple tune on the stock fuel system will likely yield safe gains of 40-60 wheel horsepower, but pushing past that will require upgraded high-pressure fuel pumps.
  3. Transmission: The Nissan 9-speed (JR913E) is still a bit of an unknown at high power levels. In the Frontier and Titan, there have been some complaints about shifting logic, but not widespread mechanical failures. We'll need to see how the NISMO's specific tuning and extra transmission cooler hold up before we know the true torque limit.
The potential is definitely there. The engine architecture is solid. But our advice is to be patient. Let the platform mature and let reputable shops do the R&D before you turn your new NISMO into a test mule.
 
The post from @IDoMyOwnTuning just highlights all my concerns. You're not just risking the warranty that @V8_Loyalist mentioned, but you're venturing into totally unknown territory.

Spending thousands of dollars on tunes and fuel pumps to maybe get an extra 60 horsepower seems like a great way to sacrifice the daily-driving reliability that's the entire point of buying a new vehicle. This is the exact opposite of the Toyota ownership philosophy. With the Sequoia TRD Pro, what you see is what you get: a well-engineered, reliable hybrid system designed to last for hundreds of thousands of miles, not to be pushed to its breaking point for a little extra power.

This thread solidifies it for me. The NISMO is for tinkerers and people who are willing to take risks. I need something I can count on, no questions asked.
 
@IDoMyOwnTuning , thank you for jumping in! That is exactly the kind of real-world, expert info I was looking for. It’s a bit of a bummer that we'll have to wait for reliable tunes, but it’s better to do it right than to do it fast. I really appreciate the transparency about the fuel system limitations.

And @V8_Loyalist, I hear you on the warranty concerns, I really do. But the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects us from a dealer voiding an entire warranty just for adding aftermarket parts. They have to prove my modification caused the specific failure.

So, while we're waiting for the ECU to be cracked, what about "warranty-friendly" bolt-ons? I'm thinking of things that don't require a tune. A good stainless steel cat-back exhaust, for example. It won't void the warranty, should free up a few horsepower, and will definitely improve the sound. Maybe a set of less restrictive air filters. That seems like a safe and satisfying place to start while the real tuning development happens.
 
This entire conversation solidifies my decision to stick with the QX80.

To me, the immediate desire to tear into the engine of a brand-new, top-of-the-line vehicle suggests a fundamental dissatisfaction with the product as delivered. If 460 horsepower isn't enough, perhaps the vehicle wasn't the right choice to begin with.

The appeal of a luxury vehicle like the new QX80 isn't just its horsepower figure; it's the holistic engineering—the seamless integration of power, refinement, quietness, and comfort. Every component is designed and tuned to work in harmony. Adding a loud exhaust or trying to extract more power through a tune would be like buying a finely tailored Zegna suit and then trying to stitch on racing stripes yourself. It fundamentally misunderstands and disrespects the original intent.

If I desired 600 horsepower, I would be shopping for a Porsche Cayenne Turbo or a BMW X5 M, vehicles engineered from the ground up for that purpose, with the brakes, chassis, and brand support to match. The NISMO is the ultimate expression of a Nissan Armada; trying to turn it into a budget Cayenne seems like a fool's errand.
 
Hey all. I found this forum from a link on Facebook. I'm coming from a lightly modified 2016 Ford Expedition with the 3.5L EcoBoost, so this new Armada NISMO is right up my alley.

A few thoughts from a guy who does all his own work in the garage:

ArmadaBound is on the right track with starting with a cat-back exhaust. On my Expedition, a quality exhaust from Borla didn't add a ton of power—maybe 10-15 hp at most—but it made the driving experience infinitely more enjoyable. Woke the truck up and gave it some personality without being obnoxious or droning on the highway. It's a great first mod that has almost zero risk to the warranty.

V8_Loyalist, I understand the warranty fear, but there's a huge community of us who enjoy personalizing our vehicles. It's not about being dissatisfied; it's about making the vehicle uniquely ours. It's a hobby.

IDoMyOwnTuning is spot on about patience. The guys who rush to tune a new platform are the ones who end up with blown engines and horror stories on forums. Let the pros figure out the limits, then the reliable "Stage 1" tunes will come out for the rest of us. For now, I'll be looking at exhaust systems, maybe a drop-in air filter, and better brake pads. The simple stuff makes a big difference.
 
@DIY_Dad, that's exactly the spirit! It’s all about making it your own. Glad to see another future owner who gets it.

@QX_Luxury, I respectfully disagree with your take. The fun here isn't trying to create a "budget Cayenne." It's about taking a platform with great bones—a powerful twin-turbo V6, a strong frame, NISMO-tuned suspension—and making it a giant-killer. Why spend $150k on a Porsche when you can spend $80k on a NISMO, add $10k in well-chosen mods, and have something that is just as fast, more unique, and built, not just bought? To me, that's a much more interesting and rewarding experience. It's the smart enthusiast's choice.
 
DIY_Dad said:
Hey all. I found this forum from a link on Facebook. I'm coming from a lightly modified Ford Expedition with the 3.5L EcoBoost, so this new Armada NISMO is right up my alley.

A few thoughts from a guy who does all his own work in the garage:

ArmadaBound is on the right track with starting with a cat-back exhaust. On my Expedition, a quality exhaust from Borla didn't add a ton of power—maybe 10-15 hp at most—but it made the driving experience infinitely more enjoyable. Woke the truck up and gave it some personality without being obnoxious or droning on the highway. It's a great first mod that has almost zero risk to the warranty.

V8_Loyalist, I understand the warranty fear, but there's a huge community of us who enjoy personalizing our vehicles. It's not about being dissatisfied; it's about making the vehicle uniquely ours. It's a hobby.

IDoMyOwnTuning is spot on about patience. The guys who rush to tune a new platform are the ones who end up with blown engines and horror stories on forums. Let the pros figure out the limits, then the reliable "Stage 1" tunes will come out for the rest of us. For now, I'll be looking at exhaust systems, maybe a drop-in air filter, and better brake pads. The simple stuff makes a big difference.
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I understand the hobby aspect, but modern cars aren't like your older Expedition. I was just reading that the new Armada has active noise cancellation and potentially active sound enhancement through the speakers. What happens when you put on your loud aftermarket exhaust? Best case, you get a horrible drone inside the cabin because the noise cancellation is trying to fight a sound profile it wasn't programmed for. Worst case, you get weird electronic feedback through the speakers. It's all so interconnected now. You're not just bolting on a simple bit of hardware anymore; you're messing with an entire electronic ecosystem. Seems like a good way to ruin a nice, quiet interior.
 
This is an amusing discussion. I came here from a link on Reddit.

The idea that this Nissan can be a "giant killer" to something like a BMW X5 M or an Audi SQ7 is... optimistic. There is a vast difference in the level of engineering you start with.

We aren't talking about just horsepower. We're talking about chassis rigidity, suspension geometry, steering feedback, and brake technology that have been honed on tracks like the Nurburgring for decades. The aftermarket support is also on another level. I can go to a certified Dinan dealer and get a tune for my X5 that is warrantied by them to match the factory coverage. ABT does the same for Audi. It's a mature, professional ecosystem.

By the time you spend money trying to make this Armada handle and stop like a stock X5 M, you will have compromised its reliability and still have a vehicle with a lower-quality interior and less sophisticated chassis dynamics. It's an apples-to-oranges comparison. Enjoy the NISMO for what it is—a sporty Japanese SUV. But let's not pretend it's in the same league as the German performance SAVs.
 
@Das Auto Fan, welcome to the forum. That's a classic argument, but it misses the entire point of the Japanese tuning scene.

No one is saying a stock Armada NISMO will have the same interior materials as a $150,000 BMW. That's not the goal. The goal is to have a vehicle with a reliable and massively over-engineered powertrain that can be modified to produce incredible performance for a fraction of the cost.

You talk about Dinan and ABT as if they're magic. They provide warranty-backed tunes because they are selling you extremely conservative tunes at a huge markup. It's a great business model, but it's not where the real performance is. The real magic happens when independent tuners get their hands on a robust platform like this VR35.

The joy isn't in buying the fastest vehicle off the showroom floor. The joy is in taking a platform with huge potential and building it into something that can embarrass those "superior" German SAVs on a highway pull, knowing you did it for half the price. That's the culture. It's about performance value, not just badge prestige.
 
Das Auto Fan makes some fair points about the maturity of the German tuning market. It's true, you can walk into a dealer and get a warranty-friendly tune, and that's a great option for people who don't want to get their hands dirty.

But I think he's underestimating the passion and ingenuity of the Japanese aftermarket. It might take a year or two, but once the community gets behind this platform, you'll see incredible things. It's a different philosophy. The German approach is often about paying a premium for a pre-packaged, certified solution. The Japanese approach is more grassroots—it's about the community finding the limits, sharing knowledge, and creating a wide variety of parts at different price points.

One isn't inherently better than the other, they just appeal to different kinds of owners. I, for one, enjoy the process of researching, installing, and testing parts myself. It's my hobby. I'd rather spend a weekend installing an exhaust than writing a check to a dealership.
 
Das Auto Fan said:
This is an amusing discussion. I came here from a link on Reddit.

The idea that this Nissan can be a "giant killer" to something like a BMW X5 M or an Audi SQ7 is... optimistic. There is a vast difference in the level of engineering you start with.

We aren't talking about just horsepower. We're talking about chassis rigidity, suspension geometry, steering feedback, and brake technology that have been honed on tracks like the Nurburgring for decades. The aftermarket support is also on another level. I can go to a certified Dinan dealer and get a tune for my X5 that is warrantied by them to match the factory coverage. ABT does the same for Audi. It's a mature, professional ecosystem.

By the time you spend money trying to make this Armada handle and stop like a stock X5 M, you will have compromised its reliability and still have a vehicle with a lower-quality interior and less sophisticated chassis dynamics. It's an apples-to-oranges comparison. Enjoy the NISMO for what it is—a sporty Japanese SUV. But let's not pretend it's in the same league as the German performance SAVs.
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I must say, you articulate my own feelings on the matter, albeit from a different brand perspective. Your post perfectly captures the concept of holistic vehicle engineering.

The argument that one can "build" a car to be "better" for less money often overlooks the countless hours of R&D that go into creating a balanced performance machine from the factory. It's not just about the engine. It's about how the transmission logic, the suspension damping, the chassis flex, and even the tire compound all work together as a single, cohesive unit. Changing one of those variables, such as adding a louder exhaust or stiffer springs, can create unforeseen compromises in another area, such as interior drone or ride harshness over city streets.

You are no longer driving the vehicle the NISMO engineers painstakingly developed; you are driving your own science experiment. For some, that is the hobby. For me, I prefer to purchase the finished masterpiece.
 
@QX_Luxury and @Das Auto Fan are making the most sense I've seen in this discussion.

Forget the luxury argument. I'm thinking about the mechanics. You have a brand new, high-compression, twin-turbo engine that's already tuned from the factory for more power than the standard Armada. You have a 9-speed transmission with its own unique NISMO software.

Do you really think you know better than the team of Nissan engineers who have been testing this exact combination for years? Do you think they left 50 horsepower on the table by accident? No. They left it on the table for a reason—likely for long-term reliability and engine health. The moment you flash that ECU, you're throwing away all of that professional R&D for a little bit of extra power that you'll barely be able to use on public roads. It's a terrible trade-off.
 
This is hilarious. This is the fundamental divide between people who see cars as appliances (even very expensive ones) and people who see them as a canvas.

No one thinks they "know better" than the factory engineers. We know they build in huge safety margins to account for varying fuel quality, extreme climates, and drivers who neglect maintenance. That's where the opportunity is. We're not reinventing the wheel; we're simply tightening the factory's conservative parameters for a more performance-focused outcome.

To @QX_Luxury and @Das Auto Fan : I don't want a "finished masterpiece" hanging on my wall. I want a raw, capable block of marble that I can help shape. The "compromises" you fear are what we call "character." A stiffer ride, a louder exhaust, a more aggressive power delivery—that's the entire point.

If I wanted a silent, detached, rolling appliance to get from A to B, I'd buy a Lexus. I want a NISMO because I want to engage with it, modify it, and make it an extension of my own performance goals. The fact that this idea is so foreign to you proves you'd never be the target audience for this kind of vehicle in the first place.
 
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